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Permalink Reply by Allie Octaphant on October 18, 2012 at 2:09pm

lol yes some people believe they are just airplanes, which is well.. 
My boyfriends roomate is A retired solder and worked on all types of military planes, and other types of aircrafts, he says he's never seen anything like this before, then he went into telling me about the patterns that normal aircrafts, and military planes make comapred to what these planes are doing.. its quite freaky.. 

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StudentPermalink Reply by Cora (Shasta) on October 19, 2012 at 11:30am

This has been going on for many yrs now unfortunatley most people dont even look up into the beautiful sky....& if they do for that moment- if your not in the now of what's going on it os inderstandable at 1st glance you would think airplane. If you google Chem Trails there are some excellant articles that have been studied for years.. The sad thing is us humans.....now that we have F*#^@ the environment so darn badly the thought of the so called intial reason for spraying was to support our deteriorating ozone layer but.....now what has been happening is it has been altering our over all weather patterns as winds pick up- carry the chemicals( for us its over the mtns- creating extensive flooding or droughts etc) So...it really is making more extreme weather conditions globally instead. This summer we saw the planes & the spraying so....NO it isnt JUST AIRPLANES. We were having a beautiful hot day & belated organic dinner on the beach with the blueist gorgeous s"normal" summer sky & then we saw the planes & the spraying start in the distance & then the patterns started over head so....we bolted home ......ahhhh & then it appears kinda like hazy clouds but it isnt & the sun disappeared. It wasnt a weather shift it was from this chemical spraying or "dusting" they will also call it. Now because it isnt evaporating like they thought it is of course making its way to the ground - efffecting the soil & many framers crops are struggling as the ground is becming super acidic. yadda yadda......

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Permalink Reply by cassandra thomas on October 18, 2012 at 2:17pm

it absolutely exists. although much of what we 'see' is technically contrails (condensation trails from the heat of the airplane exhaust mixing with the cold air)

BUT there is an actual chemical put into jet fuel that supposedly 'helps global warming' by taking out C02 emissions...which is total bull. i think it's all monsanto run :( which is so fucking scary!! i'm not sure how i feel about it, because these people would be essentially poisoning themselves right? unless they don't drink from the public water supplies and eat only home grown food...which doesn't seem likely.

last year we lived in northern california, mt. shasta and there were CONSTANTLY x's over the mountain and skies everyday, so crazy. here in nh they are less prevalent but you still see them.. 

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Permalink Reply by Allie Octaphant on October 18, 2012 at 3:14pm

Over history we have had chemtrails, but nothing compared to how many are in our sky's today, go outside right now and count the chemtrails..
What can WE do about is the question.. 
and my answer to that is I have no idea... :/

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Permalink Reply by cassandra thomas on October 18, 2012 at 3:20pm

srsly it's freaky stuff!!

i had a weird thought the other day that the chemtrails were creating the hazy cloud cover we've been experiencing lately....to hide something? i dunno, i have so many theories that would make sense but not make sense at the same time haha

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Permalink Reply by Allie Octaphant on October 18, 2012 at 3:31pm

I've noticed that as well... 
okay this might make me sounds like A paranoid skizo.. but
I've been noticing a lot of UFO's recently. not saying "aliens" just Unidentified flying objects.. I know what the difference between a air plane, a jet, a weather balloon, and everything els.. so these weird objects in the sky I'm seeing i cannot explain what they are, BUT anytime I have seen them in the sky it was just almost pitch black outside, and I could still see some chemtrails.. Idk I did some resurch after every sighting and I'm not the only one in my area who has seen the same things.. so could these events coenside? not sure.. lol 

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StudentPermalink Reply by Cora (Shasta) on October 19, 2012 at 11:35am

Ya us too !!  In the wee hrs of the morning we have had alot of helicopter acticvity that no one seems to know what it is, no one can tell us, & then of course most people are happily medicated & sleeping so arent even aware or even hear it. I mean frigg....our house was vibrating---its a friggn helicopter.....kinda noticeable for at least 2 1/2 weeks. Mmmmm.......
It is a crazy whirled.....& anything is possible ~
The saddest thing with the chem spraying as it is now affecting the soil- hence the growing of our healthy food & the inability for alot of farming to grow in such now acidic soil from it. It is pf course making its way down....to the ground.

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Permalink Reply by Allie Octaphant on October 19, 2012 at 2:21pm

Yes exactly, the soil testing is great evidence!! because they have recorded that soil chemical levels are so much higher then they've ever been

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Permalink Reply by Bearclaw Manufacturing - Tedward on October 20, 2012 at 12:00pm

Oh, and there couldn't possibly be another explanation for that..... *cough cough* Monsanto *cough*

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Permalink Reply by tia on October 18, 2012 at 3:06pm

im glad you posted this. it has been troubling my boyfriend and i for quite some time. everytime i look up the sky is covered in them and its not normal. it urks me all the time. lol. its just like, leave us alone, ya know. when we're sitting outside and we see one form, we immediately go back in. the other day there was like two big giant Xs right next to eachother right over my house.

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Permalink Reply by Allie Octaphant on October 18, 2012 at 3:15pm

that's scary, just today in Beaverton, OR I've seen at least 15 in the sky now.. I wish I had A better camera so I could get some good pictures :/

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Permalink Reply by tia on October 18, 2012 at 3:21pm

yeaaa i wish there was something we could do about it. im not giving up though, its not right. so keep me posted on anything you learn or any ideas you come up with!

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