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Permalink Reply by Phoenix Sprite on October 22, 2012 at 11:50am

I treat this issue like a teenage skater. If I ever did hit someone it the face, I haven't yet, but if I did, I think I'd stop hooping in that location for the time being. But if staff members tell me this isn't the place to hoop at, while they have a live band and tons of space on the dance floor, I'll stop for a song, maybe grab a fresh drink, then I just light my led and hit the floor once more.

I've noticed that when a hooper or hoopers are just there with hula hoops(don't even have to hoop), fellow dancers on the floor will complain to management that they don't feel safe or they dont' have much space to dance on the floor.

The bar or venue will only care about making money. If hooping chases away customers, hooping indoors is no longer a go. But I'm so full of my hooping skills (or full of myself) I know I am in complete control of my hoop at all times, so I get the chance to prove myself worthy of hooping and add to the great vibes of the building's atmosphere. I've been asked to stop hooping before, and even though they asked me once, I've NEVER been asked a second time to stop hooping.

So it's a personal thing, but for me, being asked to stop is upsetting, but it doesn't stop me if I know I'm able to hoop around the customers safely.

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StudentPermalink Reply by Jessica on October 22, 2012 at 12:49pm

i think it's a liability issue, not something personal.

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StudentPermalink Reply by Jessica on October 22, 2012 at 3:57pm

I'd look into these threads: http://www.hoopcity.ca/forum/topics/hooping-in-clubs?commentId=2737...

http://www.hoopcity.ca/forum/topics/bans-on-hoops-just-let-me?comme...

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Permalink Reply by Phoenix Sprite on October 22, 2012 at 4:27pm

it's a personal choice of yours to hoop or stop. what I meantz.

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Permalink Reply by Spooky Mermaid on October 24, 2012 at 2:43pm

I feel that it's pretty disrespectful to continue hooping when you've been told to stop, I'm sure the people complaining aren't trying to ruin your fun time I just think they are actually worried about being smacked in the face. You can't always be 100% sure that your hoop won't slip away.

If you want to hoop when you go out bar hopping/clubbing, maybe call ahead and make sure it's alright to bring your hoop?

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Permalink Reply by Moonshadow on October 22, 2012 at 3:40pm

Being underage, I've never been to a club before.  Do you use a regular hoop or an LED on these occasions?  I feel like they might be a bit more lenient if you are using an LED because it shows that you've at least put some money into your hobby and are not just a drunk girl with a hula hoop.  I would suggest trying to find a place that encourages and applauds your hooping.  If a certain club doesn't like seeing your skills, stop giving them your money.

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StudentPermalink Reply by Kacie Knight on October 22, 2012 at 4:30pm

It's management's prerogative to ask you to stop hooping at any time.  It can definitely be a liability in a club and I think that's something that needs to be respected. We don't have the right to hoop anywhere we want just because we love hooping. There are tons of venues I would love to hoop at, but it's not allowed or there isn't space, so I sigh, and spend time just dancing. If I really need a prop, I will dance with a scarf.

Why don't you maybe call ahead and talk to management before you go to a club, and explain you're a professional. Perhaps email them a demo video of your. You can explain you normally charge, but that night you're just going out with friends, so you don't want to perform officially. Spin it in a way that makes it attractive to them, and if you have permission no one can ask you to stop. If you have performer's insurance, explain that too, to help them relax about the liability.

Working with clubs and their management in a respectful and professional manner is way more likely to get you permission to bring in your hoops, and keep hoopers from getting a bad name in your area.

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Permalink Reply by Spooky Mermaid on October 24, 2012 at 2:45pm

I agree with this 100%.

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Permalink Reply by TheDizzyDolls on October 24, 2012 at 4:04am

i wouldn't take it too personal, even if they want you to stop as the night goes on. ive had a lot of go-go gigs, and as the night gets later and the people around you get drunker, they get less scared of getting hit by your hoop (and too drunk to notice) and just walk right into you, or SIT right on the 6x6 platform you are dancing on! like how drunk do you have to be? but anyhoo, it can be hard to hoop in a club with no stage or large platform. 

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StudentPermalink Reply by Snowzilla of Flowlab.ca* on October 24, 2012 at 4:45pm

Gah. Seriously? It doesn't matter HOW good you think you are, how good you think the management should think you are, how much a "benefit" YOU think you're providing to their partygoers. Our bliss is not considered a gift by everybody, no matter how much WE love it. It would be ludicrous to think so.

We as a community need to acknowledge the fact that 1. hooping is HUGE now and there are shit-tons of hoopers, and 2. Not everybody gets hooping the same way we do. Think about how many other people besides yourself are showing up at clubs and parties and festivals with their hoops. Think about how many of those other people maybe aren't as skilled, or how many partygoers are clubs aren't at 100% attentiveness because of so many factors: alcohol, drugs, flashing lights, loud music, crowds - and how many of those people do end up either bumping into hoops or getting hit by stray hoops, etc. Think about how many hoopers aren't respectful enough to put their hoops away when the club gets too crowded, or think it's ok to hoop at the front of the room during a popular set instead of off to the side or back at the venue. I totally understand why venues are turning away people with hoops.

It's a big plastic circle, yo, and not everybody "gets it" the way that you/we want them to. Nor do they have to!  And if we all start taking on this attitude that "I'm good, you should be GRATEFUL that I'm here to give you a free show" - ugh. That is so not a community I want to be a part of. Yuck. 

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Permalink Reply by Maryellen on October 24, 2012 at 5:07pm

This.Is.Common.Sense. Very well put.

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Permalink Reply by JazzyHoopz on October 24, 2012 at 5:38pm

I wish I could "like" this!!! Awesome. 

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