Yesterday I got an email from a school that is about 2 hours from my town that wants to me to:
*perform at their event
*teach the students and their parents
*provide hoops for approximately 200 kids
At first I quoted her $2000 and I said would perform for free. That's giving a big bulk discount on the hoops. Today She said emailed and said that there might be less hoops. That said, I need to make sure I factor in that I will be:
*buying TONS of tubing and tapes (not cheap)
*putting in a few hundred hours to buy the tubing and make all of the hoops (shipping costs if I have to order on line)
*renting a u-haul truck and paying for milage to and from the school
*paying myself for performing and teaching (maybe buying a cute costume too)
*My husband Chad will be taking the day off work to help me haul the hoops
How much would YOU think is a fair price?
Thanks in advance. I apologize if this is miscategorized.
Thanks Nicole...I appreciate your advice.
For 200 hoops, $2,000 is a STEAL. The only way you're really even covering your costs is if they're all made of the 1/2" 125psi tubing with just a couple decorative strips of gaff or vinyl tape. Since the 3/4" tubing is pricier you'll barely break even if you use that, without even factoring in the Uhaul rental, shipping on supplies, the time you'll spend making the hoops or your husband's time off. I agree with Nicole. Find out what your total costs are and exactly what you need to cover that, then add in more for your time and energy. I think I'd charge at least $7-$10/hoop for the 1/2" 125psi hoops, and at least $12-$15/hoop for 3/4" tubing—again, minimal tape. Just a few strips of something colorful/decorative.
How much lead time are they giving you on this? I feel like it'd take me at least two or three months to make 200 hoops.
The event will be April or May....they will get back to me on Tuesday to confirm.
Thanks for the input. I will definitely do minimal tape.
Geri (the HoopShack) does some fairly plain hoops that have three colors of gaff—two 1/2" strips and one 1" strip. Two go in a spiral and one crisscrosses and they always look kinda cool. Anyway, it's a really simple way to just do a couple colors of tape that still looks nice.
And Ted (Brancu, I think it's spelled?) told me once to always make sure people know exactly what they're getting when you're offering your services. So maybe send them a photo of the type of hoops they'll be getting. That way they know ahead of time and can't complain about anything the day of/once you get there.
I know right! I made an itemized bill that includes everything from hoop tape to me renting a truck to deliver all of the hoops. :)
$2000 for 200 hoops comes out at 10 dollars a piece for a hoop and thats really cheap considering you have to make all of these hoops, teach, and perform. Do the children/ parents keep the hoops? You could maybe look into buying bulk children's hoops that are made with really cheap plastic... Idk 200 hoops is a lot to make by yourself. but if you can do it more power to ya! :) you rock!
the best piece of advice I can give is to make sure you keep all your receipts so you dont lose any of your personal money. I like to get a chunk of money upfront before I put in all the work and collect the rest after the gig. but these are all just suggestions. sounds like a really cool gig. Make sure they provide you with a head set microphone you you can move and teach at the same time and so you dont hurt your voice talking over that many children. lol
Thanks for the tips and the compliments....I usually require 50% deposit...that would pay for my materials, etc.
I thought about getting some sort of headset/mic thing too.
Thanks again :)
I don't know what the going rates for that sort of thing is where you are but here you would be selling your self way way short.
The hoops them selves are worth more than that, at the price you have quoted you are only charging only $10 a hoop that is with out any pay for the teaching, and people running group work shops will usually charge more than that.