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StudentPermalink Reply by disco* Lissa on May 1, 2010 at 9:12am

dude I would also love to figure this out! there is a move called the fountain that I have been watching and trying to figure out.

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StudentPermalink Reply by spider baby on May 1, 2010 at 10:53am

that is Khan , he is on hoop city you should just ask him and he would probably help you figure it out.
every one here is helpful and friendly.

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StudentPermalink Reply by ChinaCat Sunflow on May 2, 2010 at 10:21am

YES! this is pretty much what i've been looking for. My problem is i don't know how to come out of the weave and go into the part where it looks like 'the windmill'... i know unless i have someone physically show me, i'm not gonna get it :( It took me SO long to learn the surface switch for the 3 beat weave from video tutorials and lots of frustration... ahhh, patience..

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StudentPermalink Reply by circularlogic on May 1, 2010 at 1:31pm

I don't have the windmill yet-- not quite enough clearance to practice in the house & I keep forgetting to try it when I'm outside! BUT since the windmill is essentially a variation on Chasing the Sun, maybe the same transition will work... it requires a surface switch on the hand that's in the turning direction.

I started by going from a forward weave, turning right into CTS, & until I got the knack of it I transitioned with several plain forward rolls over my hand in between the two. I'd go from the weave to the roll, then surface switch on my right hand as I turned right, moving into CTS, where my right hand was now doing a backward weave & my left hand a forward. Once I got used to that, I was able to cut it down to just one roll as I was turning/switching, coming directly out of the weave. It's a bit trickier to maintain the angle that way, but it's essentially the same movement.

I hope that makes sense & helps with the transition you want!

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Permalink Reply by Jane "Electric Blue" on May 2, 2010 at 12:13am

It is a little hard to explain but if you do the weave and turn 1/4 to one side you will be doing the windmill.

This is really easy with poi because the chains take up the twist that needs to happen.

The difficulty with hoops is that you need to do some tricky finger work to change grips for the windmill.

I'll attempt to explain what i do but it might not make sense:

-Start the weave in the forwards(freestyle swimming) Direction.
-Turn 1/4 to the left.
- The grip for the right hand stays the same.
- To adjust the grip for the left hand i let the hoop do half a revolution around my thumb and then re-grip the hoop.

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StudentPermalink Reply by disco* Lissa on May 2, 2010 at 9:02am

ahhhh...I am going to play with this today. Thanks :)

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StudentPermalink Reply by circularlogic on May 2, 2010 at 9:28am

That's exactly what I was talking about only I began by turning in the other direction! It's always the turning direction hand that has to switch. For me it was easier to learn the switch with a few rolls in between at first, but the end result is the same.

If you do the three-beat weave, you already know the surface switch. This vid by Caroleeena might help if you need a breakdown of the move. She covers the change beginning at ~1:20.

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