ok, so i usually hoop with a 5/8 o.d polypro hoop. For those of you not number savy ( im not eihter) thats the thinnest tubing, thinner than 1/2 black tubing. its awesome. cept for the fact that they dont make LEDS that skinny. I have asked jeremiah of hoop daddy and some other makers as well and apprently its too thin for the wiring etc at the moment. SO, my question is, im willing to get a 3/4 polypro LED, and have been looking at a few. my friend just got a helix proton. and i know people that have gotten a hoopdaddy pheonix. Neither are compatible with a mac which i hate but whatever. one has a remote but thats not really cruaical to me ( hoop daddy), prices are similar. so my question is which should i get? im used to such a light hoop? i know hoop daddy is 11 ounces, but not sure about proton. rattling? charging? etc? anyone can give insight? its a hefty price ( 400 range) and i wanna do my research with hands on hoopers.
thanks in advance. i have looked at other forums but wanted to give my background with a fresh feed. feel free to link me to some i may have missed. thanks in advance again.
PS. hoop daddy apparently isnt making them anymore till he catches up on orders. i want mine within a month.
Permalink Reply by Terry Gentry on July 13, 2012 at 6:34pm i haven't personally bought an LED hoop yet but i also use the 5/8in tubing (got almost 400 ft for free) but have you tried moodhoops.com troohoops.com or superhooper.org
Permalink Reply by Agillustration on July 13, 2012 at 6:41pm i have an led thats what i call "boring typical" i want a "smart hoop" one with the works and those are the two best on the market right now.
Permalink Reply by Agillustration on July 13, 2012 at 6:41pm moodhoops and troohopps are great for hoopers that dont have one yet but i have had an led for a few years and im ready to get an awesome one now.
Permalink Reply by Terry Gentry on July 13, 2012 at 7:21pm there are a few sites that do custom ones like astral hoops, psi hoops, and trick concepts.

just a heads up, the shipping period for the helix right now is around 8 weeks, you won't get it within a month.
Permalink Reply by Agillustration on July 13, 2012 at 8:21pm yea i read that earlier, oh well either way im not getting any qaulity hoop in a month so back to the questin of which one. no time limit included

ok, just thought i would let you know. unfortunately i cannot comment on either hoop, as i have never seen one in real life, though i am expecting my helix by mid-august. i chose the helix over the atomic because of the thinner tubing size. i had wanted a phoenix because of the remote and bluetooth settings, but was unsure when he would be accepting orders again.

The Atomic Pro from Astral Hoops is 3/4" and awesome!
Hoops of Creation makes 5/8" OD tubing polypro LED hoops. I just ordered a set of doubles; several of my friends have HOC hoops and they are seriously amazing. Very high quality, very lightweight. I don't think they'll do them within a month though... but if you decide to forgo that requirement, they are highly recommended. I have a Hoop Daddy Foxfire hoop which I love, but like you say, they only come in the 3/4" OD tubing.
I had emailed Patrick from PSI hoops last weekend and he has a pair of pre-made hoops in the thin tubing you're looking for, they're 30.5" diameter, and he'll sell one of them instead of the pair. I think around $200 - $250 each, some sort of green/cyan/blue color scheme, 2 circuits... you could email him for details! Expensive, but hey, they're PSI hoops...
Edit: Just saw your comment about wanting a "smart" hoop... if that's the case, I highly recommend Hoop Daddy :)
Permalink Reply by Munai on July 14, 2012 at 11:33am I'm looking into hoops of creation for my LED because of the lightweight and small tubing. how are their hoops?
and i don't really understand all of these ''smart'' hoops.. i feel like i'm missing something.. haha
Permalink Reply by Munai on July 14, 2012 at 11:30am I use 5/8 tubing too and I've been searching for anyone who can do polypro that size because I like small, light hoops. I think hoops of creation does LEDs in 5/8 tubing as long as the hoop is under a certain size.
http://www.hoopsofcreation.com
they don't do the protons or any of those crazy hoops but you can custom make one for a pretty nice price.
hope this helps:)
love and light <3

Personally, I would choose the Phoenix for two reasons:
1) I already have the Fox Fire hoop from Hoop Daddy and his hoop quality and customer service are outstanding.
2) The Helix hasn't been around for as long as the Phoenix (I realize both are still quite new though) so there may be bugs with it that they are unaware of at the moment.
I'm currently saving up for a Phoenix so that when he starts selling them again, I can get my hands on one.
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