ok,  so  i   usually hoop with a  5/8 o.d  polypro hoop.  For those of  you  not number savy ( im not eihter) thats  the thinnest tubing, thinner than 1/2 black  tubing.  its  awesome.  cept for the  fact  that  they  dont make LEDS  that   skinny.  I have asked   jeremiah of  hoop daddy and  some other   makers  as well and apprently its too thin  for   the wiring  etc  at the moment.  SO,  my question is,  im  willing to  get  a 3/4  polypro LED, and  have been looking at a  few. my friend  just  got a   helix proton.  and  i know people that have gotten a hoopdaddy pheonix.  Neither are  compatible with a mac  which   i hate  but whatever. one  has  a   remote  but  thats  not really cruaical to  me (  hoop daddy),  prices are similar.  so  my question is  which  should i  get?  im  used to  such a  light hoop?  i know hoop  daddy is  11 ounces,  but not sure about  proton.   rattling? charging?  etc?  anyone can  give insight?  its a  hefty price ( 400 range) and i  wanna  do my research  with hands on  hoopers.

thanks in  advance.  i have looked at  other  forums  but wanted to give my  background with a fresh feed. feel free to link me to  some i  may have  missed.  thanks in  advance again.

PS.  hoop  daddy  apparently isnt making them   anymore till he catches up on orders.  i want  mine  within a  month.

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P.S. I also have a Mac. I wish somebody would make a Mac compatible hoop. 

Helix or phoenix, both are awesome, but I'm not sure if hoop daddy is making the phoenix right now.

I have a helix and I freaking love it. 3/4 polypro, it doesn't come in 5/8. weight is 10 or 11 oz (its on the site)

Don't want to make atomic owners sad, but I would say don't bother with the atomic pro- it's not as cool and costs more than the helix. long wait time (8 weeks) but it is worth it. The maker says mac compatible software is coming soon.

The Phoenix is Mac compatible....he has the little Mac logo right on the bottom of the info page for it.

I would go with a Phoenix when they are available again.  I have one and it is seriously the craziest hoop ever.  It totally blows atomics out of the water and I think being able to customize the patterns allows for awesome effects.  I really like the "chase" effects that the Phoenix has - I haven't seen any video footage of the Helix that has chase patterns, so I don't know if the Helix can do them.  But they make for trippy isolations and body hooping.


I don't know when he will be making them again but if I was given the choice again, I would wait for the Phoenix.

~Loop 

A friend of mine made a comparison video of the Atomic hoop vs. the Proton Labs Helix if it would be any help to you even though you're looking at the Phoenix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kmgtXJe4mU

I've followed Craig of Proton Labs through the process of pumping out the Helix, and although the wait time is slow he seems like a *genuinely* good person. He also includes a sweet warranty you should check out.

and the connector is made from carbon fiber I believe.... that thing will NOT fall apart haha. 

I have recently  found someone on  fb  that  i  was f riends  with making a hoop  that  will be  released soon  called the  synth.  batter battery.  100 bucks less and  no  GAP.  itdont htink u  can  customize   patterns  etc  but  thats  not  important to me.   his  fb  page  is  LED artistry.  name is  david.  im looking into that one too. 

Thanks for the heads up, agillustration! I am totally interested in a smart hoop without a gap. We'll see what the synth is like. 

I had the same problem as you and I ended up getting a helix, I've had it for 2 months now and I love it. It's bigger tubing yeah, but you'll get used to it quick, plus it's sooooooooooo preeeeeetty. You will always be a little off on leds cause they're obviously heavier than a standard day poly 5/8, getting used to a tad bigger tubing is well worth it. good luck. :)

i think the atomic is the way to go... my friends and I have all of the smart hoops and i still would push the atomic... it IS the same price, and i like the patterns better on it than the other hoops.  the only thing i wish is that the atomic could switch randomly between settings but the setting are so easy to go through that i know i can change them while still spinning. 

it also depends on your style of hooping.  the helix is more flashing that if you like to perform for more electic stuff maybe thats the hoop for you but i like the simplicity of some of the setting on the atomic (some almost look like poi or something).  idk honestly they are all about the same i dont think one is CRAZIER or BETTER than the other, just get one of each and call it a day ha

" just get one of each and call it a day ha"

haha i like the way you think ;)

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