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Permalink Reply by Allyssa on December 15, 2011 at 2:59pm

I am in the same boat! I can get the reversal but it just goes flying when I try to lean or put my head in. I've watched the tutorial like 40 times lol

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Permalink Reply by Hillary on December 15, 2011 at 7:43pm

OMG me too!  I've been at this for what seems like months!

It's just passing it from one elbow to the other, it all goes hay wire!  I just can't seem to line it up!  I've tried differnt spinning directions, different sized hoops... I just can't seem to get it!  

I'm glad you posted this, maybe someone will be able to help us!  

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StudentPermalink Reply by Tilly Whirls on December 18, 2011 at 1:34am

When I learned this move it took me forever to learn the timing of leaning back and putting my head in. The next problem was that the hoop is supposed to do one rotation around the neck before passing to the other elbow, and once the hoop was on my neck it would lose all momentum. It's hard to describe, but I feel like you almost have to learn to lean back into the hoop and the way your neck hits it needs to be with enough force and at the right time to continue to push the hoop. Before I could do the full move I cheated and would stick my head in but immediately grab the hoop with my hand and push it onto my elbow. Probably doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I made you a video to show how I cheated the move and describing how to do it, along with the full elbow attack. It actually took me at least three months of working on this move to get it, so don't get discouraged if it's taking time. It's a hard one. Keep at it! (Note: You might have to turn up the sound on this video—it was late at night so I was sorta whispering.)

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Permalink Reply by Fauna on December 18, 2011 at 2:34am

Thank you Sarah and Tilly Whirls for the advice and video! I think I understand how to arch my back properly and what motion to make now. I'm going to give the elbow attack another try in the morning :D

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StudentPermalink Reply by Helfirey on December 18, 2011 at 4:26am

I'm just about to start trying to learn this - the tutorial looks really helpful (especially the cheat to start off with). I've noticed on some people's tutorials (like Babz Robinson) they roll the hoop around the chest/shoulders rather than the neck. Is that just a personal preferance thing or is it easier to roll it over the neck because you don't need to bend in so much?

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StudentPermalink Reply by Tilly Whirls on December 18, 2011 at 10:14am

Actually you're right. Thanks for pointing that out! When I was trying to learn it I was trying to spin it around my neck only and having so much trouble—that's where it would lose momentum and die. I guess I didn't realize that eventually I started leaning into the hoop a little farther. Now that I watch myself do it from the side I can see it's a little bit further down from my neck, like right around my collar bone area. 

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Permalink Reply by Fauna on December 18, 2011 at 9:22am

It looks like it'd be easier to only try to spin it around your neck. But I've seen some pretty wicked variations of the move with chest and shoulders inside. Like using the the first two parts of the elbow attack (reversing the hoop and leaning into it) to go into vertical chest hooping

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Permalink Reply by Ashly Connor on December 18, 2011 at 5:45pm

That's a pretty sweet move, I'm gonna have to start trying that out!

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StudentPermalink Reply by Kim Cuppett on December 19, 2011 at 3:46am

It took me a long time to figure out the Elbow Attack as well! Like everyone else said, I could switch directions, but I couldn't figure out how to get my body it, or what to do after that. I eventually got it when I was just messing around with my hoop one day--and BAM, I did it!  Tilly's video is excellent in explaining it!

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Permalink Reply by BABZ Robinson on December 27, 2011 at 7:43pm

hmmmm sounds like i need to re-do my this tutorial. I've always tried to keep them short but lately they've been getting longer in favour of more detail. So, the problem that you are having with the hoop flying off your elbow sounds to me like your arm isn't bent enough (stick that fist up to your shoulder!) or that when you go to lean back you are bringing your elbow out to the side instead of keeping at a right angle to your back. I tend to roll it around my chest because i find its easier to put momentum into the hoop from that angle by using power from my knees. the other common problem i have seen is that people seem to be trying to get the hoop off their body too fast. the hoop makes a FULL rotation around your body before you take the hoop off with your wrist, so it's like you  are taking the hoop off at the beginning of the SECOND rotation. hope this helps!!

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Permalink Reply by Fauna on January 14, 2012 at 10:24am

After many more hours of practicing the elbow attack I can at least successfully reverse the rotation of the hoop more smoothly and keep it there for longer. I feel like I'll have better luck with this trick in the spring when it's not a terrible idea to go outside sleeveless.

Babz- I totally think re-doing your tutorial would help me and the rest of the hooping community. Keeping my fist up at my shoulder is definitely the advice I needed to be able to get as far as I have with the trick. I personally appreciate that your more recent tutorials are longer than your earlier ones. Like I just mastered your "Breaking It Off" tutorial while some like "The Body Twizzle" still baffle me a little. Thank you for replying to this post!!

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Permalink Reply by BABZ Robinson on January 14, 2012 at 8:19pm

any time darlin!

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