so I came across this article which I found very informative to give us a better understanding of this matters. Im sure you all will find it very useful ^_^

How to permanently eliminate menstrual discomfort.

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How to eliminate menstrual discomfort, distress, pain, bloating, general bitchiness, all odors in all places and fluids, emotional instability, intellectual confusion, tenderness: physical and/or emotional disturbances, headaches, hot flashes, depression, ... and all the other common negative manifestations of “the curse”. This, through simple, easy, obvious, and natural changes in diet.

Learning to THINK outside the box.

To understand this simple principle, it is necessary to learn to think in a rational manner, and follow facts and logic to wherever they lead.
Start with realizing that little girls are programmed into cooking, washing clothes, and playing with dolls (the so-called mothering instinct), and little boys are programmed into violence, power plays, and greed (the so-called warrior instinct). But, none of this is “instinct”; it is pure social/cultural conditioning in the most fundamental Pavlovian sense. Humans are conditioned 24 hours per day as infants, and so we come to mindlessly copy those humans in our surroundings; we unwittingly become cultural robots, merely copying and playing out the expectation of others. The human, so conditioned all its waking hours for several years, or decades, by parents, “school”, “religious” training, job environments, military, public media (the worst), ... until the rare, occasional misfit figures out that he/she wants to control and direct his/her own destiny, and rebels against the Local Establishment; here represented by the backward-thinking, or more accurately, the non-thinking parental units, and the sleeping culture, at large.

Did anyone ever teach you how to think?

Most parents do not actively teach their children much beyond the obligatory colors, letters, numbers (but not mathematics), animal names, simple words, and trivial social niceties … “Parenting” is generally left to The System: “schools” (Remember that the individuals in a school of fish do not think and/or act independently. For fish, “schooling” is a survival instinct; in humans, “schooling” is mindless conformity to the mediocre, and guarantees eternal slavery to it. Independent thought and action are actively suppressed for the sake of the efficiency of the psychological-conditioning process.)
For humans, who are widely dispersed along the HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_curve" Bell curve, regimented lessons, no matter how sincere, will always leave the bright students bored stiff (the result being the possible permanent shutting down of the intellect), and the slow students overwhelmed, “behind”, and psychologically and intellectually inadequate. Thus, both these groups are essentially permanently lost and become uneducable. The narrow band of “average” students might learn a little, but are also impeded by the mere presence of the other two groups.
 This should provide some insight into the reasons for the failure of public education.

Our parents were omnipotent to us,
but really not too bright!

We naively believe and trust in our Parental Gods, for it was They Who Created Us! We trust our parental units with our very lives; we have to, because we are totally dependant on these giants, these all-powerful beings. They totally control us 24 hours a day, for DECADES. Some children are so traumatized by conventional societal injustice, pain, dishonesty, trickery, corrupt politicians, corrupt government, conventional diets, junk foods, sugar, caffeine, tobacco, toxic meat, tens of thousands of industrial chemicals added to the public food supply that have never, and WILL never, be fully researched by independent investigators for the diseases caused by the long-term ingestion of these food additives, … and all the rest of it, so they become “depressed”. Depression and violent behavior are commonly created by ”food-induced hypoglycemia”, and linked to consumption of sugar, caffeine (soft drinks), animal products.
Many studies have been done that show the causal relationship between eating sugar, caffeine, meats, dairy, food additives, junk foods, refined starches, … and ‘antisocial’ behavior’. All these profoundly affect the victims’ consciousness and therefore their behavior, also. And, of course, these destructive behaviors are culturally-conditioned into unsuspecting and helpless children.

Cultural hypnosis/cultural programming.

Unfortunately, our parents are rather primitive, growing up in a culture (western laborer/techie/business drone/house wife, secretary, nurse, …) that does not encourage intelligence, excellence, or innovation, but rather is severely challenged by them. Thus, the intellect, un-nurtured and abandoned by the extant culture, starves, and remains dormant, trapped forever in a childish fantasy world, with no hope of escape. Such is the unintended fate of the masses due simply to malprogramming in the local cultural value systems. Societies that encourage development of the intellect and independent thought at least have the possibility of doing so; unfortunately, the societies who do not encourage such development have no chance of attaining it. For them, it does not exist.
 One must realize that one is in prison, before one can plan an escape; those who do not know that they are in prison will never plan an escape.

Is human menstruation natural?

Similarly, deep, erroneous, and destructive negative cultural programming of false beliefs dominates the process called “menstruation”. 
 The fact to be aware of is that the other apes do not menstruate; they have HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estrous_cycle" estrus, which is totally different. Estrus precedes possible impregnation and is characterized by the females’ body preparing for possible impregnation, and by the excretion of HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone" pheromones that attract and stimulate the male’s sexual activity to support the possible pregnancy. Since the human genetic code is 98.4% identical to that of the chimp, perhaps the chimp might be a good candidate for a model of healthy sexual functioning, in addition to diet; at least, ignoring the cultural practice being recently developed in some troops: that of trading HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/chimphunt.htm" freshly-killed animal HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/iangilby.htm" flesh for sexual favors. This is remarkably similar to human “dating”.
 The sexist bias of global male-dominated societies is clearly reflected in the fact that IF male physicians had monthly “bleeding” from their genitals, accompanied by the often unpleasant and debilitating symptomology common to females, they would seriously research the cause and cure of this “disease”. 
 Human HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstruation" menstruation, and the accompanying odors, certainly in not sexually attractive to the male, nor is it pleasant to the female. These unpleasant odors are caused mostly by, and are characteristic of, putrefying improperly-digested HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein" proteins, and are the result of the woman’s consuming far HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pro.htm" too HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pp.htm" much protein due to the cultural diet. These undigested proteins are then available in the colon to feed HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moritz_Traube" putrefactive bacteria, and the bacteria’s metabolic wastes contain the odiferous HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amine" amine compounds. These toxic compounds move throughout the body to cause all sorts of health problems.
The characteristic, unpleasant, HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausea" nauseating odors of the feces, urine, sweat (body odor), and breath of cultural meat-eaters is caused by amines, such as HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indole" indole, HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skatole" skatole, HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaverine" cadaverine, HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putrescine" putrescine, and a non-amine: HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_sulfide" hydrogen sulfide (that old favorite from high school chemistry class). All these toxic compounds have their ultimate origin in the consumption of animal products and other high-protein items, such as nuts/seeds, beans, legumes, pulses, etc. in the cultural diet.
 Wendy Harris and Nadine Forrest MacDonald wrote a little publication entitled HYPERLINK "http://www.waldorfhomeschoolers.com/menstruation.htm" Is Menstruation Necessary? Obviously, the title indicates: NO. Women experimenting with a raw vegan diet commonly, and joyously, find that the negative sequelae markedly diminish, or eventually disappear entirely, as their bodies detox from years of cultural diet eating.
 Menstruation’s true biological function is in heated HYPERLINK "http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/334/7600/955" \l "165350" dispute. Unfortunately, hormonal contraceptives should not be used for the control of “menstruation”, or for any purpose, as suggested by medicos.
“Yet, the scientific literature, as far back as the 1970s, documents the positive relationship between the number of menstrual cycles in a woman’s lifetime and the chance of developing a reproductive tract cancer; the deleterious effect of menstrual blood loss on iron deficiency anemia (which affects over a half billion women primarily in the less developed regions of the world); the causal and exacerbating effect of menstruation on endometriosis and dysmenorrhea; and the pre-menstrual triggering of catamenial diseases (i.e. epilepsy, migraine)” suggests that menstruation should be minimized by natural means.”
I do not agree with the common belief stated above re: “iron deficiency anemia”, since the amount of iron lost is minimal, and cultural diet eaters ingest far too much iron in the form of toxic HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heme_iron" heme iron. Fortunately, humans are not blood drinkers, so should not be consuming animal flesh, animal blood, or their inherent HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html" heme iron.

The way out!

Herein, is presented a non-drug, simple dietary approach that will avoid ingesting common cultural “foods” that are, indeed, the ultimate cause for all unpleasant menstrual phenomena, in addition to many other “diseases”.
The negative sequelae humans commonly experienced during menstruation; pain, “cramps”, nausea, headache, tenderness, emotional instability, general bitchiness, fatigue, inexplicable inappropriate behavior, “what have you got, the rag on?”, … ALL are logical, biochemically-driven effects of internal toxins being released into the blood stream to be expelled through the skin, sweat, urine, feces, breath,… during an internal cleansing process that is preparatory for possible impregnation. These toxic materials are ingested in the forms of “meat”, “eggs”, “fish”, “fowl”, … all animal bodies and parts, or are created in the process of trying to digest “foods” that are really not natural foods for our species.
Since the human is a HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pix/Health/chimpdiet.xls" frugivorous ape, our digestive biochemistry is suited to eat mostly fruit, and the occasional greens. Human genetic code is HYPERLINK "http://www.gate.net/~rwms/primegendist.html" 98.4% identical to the chimp, our closest genetic cousin. Obviously, most of that difference is reflected more in physical appearance than any significant changes in comparative biochemistry. There is no way for human digestive systems to “ HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/chimphunt.htm" adapt” to animal flesh, raw or cooked. Our digestive HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biochemistry" biochemistry is controlled by our HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code" genetic code; it remains the way it has been throughout our HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution" evolutionary history, and it will not change to suit the cultural biases or favorite beliefs of anyone, or their local tribe.

The difference between estrus and menstruation.

Clearly, estrous, which occurs 180° out-of-phase with menstruation, has as its purpose the attraction and stimulation of the male; menstruation is certainly not attractive, nor stimulating, to the human male. Around the planet, females have been isolated from the local tribes’ population when they are menstruating; such was the primitive superstitions based on ignorance built up about this phenomenon in many different, isolated (from each other) cultures. Therefore, menstruation and estrous are totally different physiologically and psychologically.

Understanding that all human disease is created by ignorance of Natural Laws and the disease experiencer’s ignorant, and generally quite innocent, violation of same, one could intentionally remove those factors in one’s life that cause the difficulty, and reasonably expect that the body will respond positively and give unmistakable feedback that one has moved in the correct direction. Thus, your day-to-day experiences will verify that correctness, or lack thereof, of the changes you are experimenting with.

It is of fundamental importance that you fully, and deeply, understand that YOU will make all the decisions based on YOUR OWN day-to-day journey. I am not telling anyone what to do! All I am doing is sharing information that I have found to be very useful over the years, and trying different avenues for publicity.

How to change your diet successfully.

The basic idea is to transition quickly, or slowly at your own pace, to a mostly, or all, raw diet approximating that of our closest genetic relative, the HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pix/Health/chimpdiet.xls" chimp. That is, mostly fruits, and vegetables as a secondary food source.
The first major benchmark will be the elimination of all animal protein and fat. It would be well to read T. Colin Campbell, PhD’s, book, HYPERLINK "http://tinyurl.com/2dut75" The China Study, a 20-year epidemiological study done on the effects of cultural dietary items on human health.
 One may drop animal products overnight, or gradually, as one chooses.
 Basically, our bodies are leaky protein bags, and once the ingestion of toxic material, and material that creates toxins in the body due to improper digestion, are reduced or eliminated, the body will respond by excreting these foreign materials out by every conceivable orifice.
I call these excretory processes “ HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/cleansing.htm" cleansing reactions”.
In order to change diet successfully and comfortably it is absolutely necessary to know how to control the dynamics of the cleansing by eating on a day-to-day basis. One may construct a hierarchy of possible diets ordered from the most rapid and vigorous cleansing through lesser intensities.
Here is a list of diets arranged from the most intense and vigorous cleansing down to the least.

Fasting; the consumption of water, only. Daily, plain, warm water enemas on waking, and at the first sign of any discomfort experienced on any of these levels.
Fruit juices; fresh squeezed, bottled, …
Fruit; raw
Fruit, raw and vegetable salads, raw. These eaten at different meals; i.e. do not mix fruits and vegs at the same meal.
Fruit and vegs, raw, with some lightly cooked, or steamed, vegs.
Above, with more severely cooked vegs.
Above, with small amounts of cooked grains, such as brown rice, bulgur, etc.
Above, with more cooked grains.

It is well to avoid HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pp.htm" concentrated HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/pro.htm" proteins from HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/anxiety.htm" any source; nuts/seeds, beans, legumes …
As one lightens up their diet, cleansing reaction will occur, and sometimes astounding quantities of stored undigested proteins and carbohydrates, in addition to large quantities of old stored toxins, will be excreted through every bodily orifice.
The thing to learn is that IF the cleansing reactions get too intense for one to handle their planet-side trip, then one may slow down the speed of the process by eating lower on the above spectrum. Similarly, one may speed up the process by moving upward on the list, say, if one has a full weekend to devote to cleansing, or one has set aside a week or two for some serious work.
Thus, what one eats on a day-to-day basis controls the speed of detox, so one is in complete control of the process. 
 There have been many people who get very enthused about a raw diet, and not knowing the dynamics, jump into an all-raw diet overnight. They feel pretty good for a week or two, but then get hit by intense cleansing, and mistakenly think they “got sick”, so they change back to their old toxic, HYPERLINK "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucus" mucus-laden diet. The cleansing therefore stops, and they mistakenly think the raw diet “made them sick”, or they are better suited to their old cultural diet. Thus, their ignorance of the dynamics of the process has led them back into a deadly, dead-end diet. It is wise to avoid this common trap by understanding the dynamics of the detox process.

For a broad overview of human diet, and the culturally-induced diseases caused by eating cultural diets, see my HYPERLINK "http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html" website.
Feel free to visit my newsgroup: HYPERLINK "news:alt.food.vegan.science"news:alt.food.vegan.science, and ask questions from there.

Laurie

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Interesting article, but honestly it sounds kind of distorted to me. After all, women in all cultures, across history, regardless of their "cultural diet" have menstruated, right? And it's kind of offensive to me to classify menstruation as a disease. I have a very positive attitude toward my body, including its cycles, and very, very rarely experience any kind of discomfort during my period. Sure, it's kind of inconvenient, but at the same time, it's nice to put away my sexy underwear and reconnect to my primal, motherly body for a couple of days each month. With that said...

I like meat

and I like my menstrual cycle.

;-)
If you say you like meat does that mean that you enjoy having animals die for you?

I thought it was a great article, loved the push for cleansing corpses out of your body. After all, according to The Journal of the American Medical Association, which was not an extreme vegetarian group the last time I checked, meat and fat consumption are the cause of 80% of cancers.
Secondly, stroke and heart attack are leading causes of death among humans in the United States.
Both of these diseases are the same thing in different parts of the body; cholesterol becomes so thick on the arterial walls that the blood can no longer flow through.
THERE ARE NO VEGETABLE SOURCES OF CHOLESTEROL.
HEART ATTACK AND STROKE ARE 100% caused by eating meat.
High Blood Pressure is a symptom, not a disease in itself. The problem is too much cholesterol in the diet, making the passageway for blood to get through to be too narrow. Just like when you bend a garden hose to increase the pressure of the water, so does blood force harder through a narrow passage.

speaking of blood not being able to flow through....eating meat causes IMPOTENCE in men too.

I am so offended when anyone says they like meat. It is a killer of people and animals.
I guess everyone has different boundaries. I dont mean to change anyone in any way just want to share some things that are around that will help us all evolve a little better. I see meat eating as a simple unconscious act. Many people in our society tend to be unconscious since we are constantly bombarded by the media and others. Also the fact that so many kinds of food (highly processed specially) makes us unconscious. like socrates said let food be your medicine and medicine your food. we are truly what we eat!!
Let the rabbits wear glasses. ;-)

Can you link me to the study that shows that meat consumption is the cause of 80% of cancers? I can find that nowhere on JAMA's website.

The only issue that I have heard discussed in valid medical studies is the correlation between the consumption of red meat and colorectal cancer. Some studies have found an association, but not a conclusive causation. However, one recent study finds that vegetarians may actually have an increased incidence of colorectal cancer (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427.php). Since this study is the first of its specific kind, it remains inconclusive, and future studies will be done to determine the correlation between meat consumption and cancers.

I understand that your issues with meat consumption have to do with more than just health, but be careful in throwing around false statistics. It tends to negate the rest of your argument.
well even vegetarians/vegans can have a horrible diet as well. Its really more about looking into processed foods. they will really make your immune system really weak among them soy products. and meat besides giving people high cholesterol its hard to digest. its dead meat and for it has no enzymes as well as it takes 48-78 hrs for a human to digest it letting it rot inside, now that cant be any good for anybody. it can deff. cause many problems. not only to our bodies but also to earth. its really not sustainable. The best way to go in my opinion is to eat whole fruits vegetables and grains just how they are.
You do realize that your defensiveness will drive people away from considering a dietary change?

Also, there are massive medical risks in totally eliminating meat, and more so if you eliminate dairy. You're excluding entire classes of vitamins, lowering your bone density (proven in studies), and god knows what else. No one should try it without consulting a medical professional first, especially if they're pregnant or young.

Don't get all defensive and cry "But the poor little animals!". Most livestock wouldn't even survive without people, and livestock HAS to be well cared for because honestly, bruised meat cannot be sold (used to live in a town with a packing plant). Not to mention the fact that large farms will wipe out critters as well, either as collateral damage from machinery and insecticide, or on purpose to keep them out of the crops.

If you want someone to consider your diet, you need to be accepting of theirs, and approach it gently. I'm sorry if this sounds rude, but you're coming off pretty pretentious, and I know you don't mean it that way, so I thought I'd say something.
I agree with you about being at peace with your body and its cycles. There's something wonderfully psychologically healthy about accepting that discomfort can be a part of life, even healthy life.

Not to mention that, as far as any valid medical studies to date show, the occasional reporting of cessation of menstruation when eating a vegan/raw diet is caused by malnutrition. Not to say that all vegans are malnourished, but that this is the cause for the cessation of periods. Your body thinks it's starving, and therefore thinks "There's no way I could nourish a fetus," therefore no reason to menstruate. Cessation of periods is a reason to contact your doctor, not a reason to celebrate :/
Unless you are a doctor or a dietitian, you really should NOT judge or change someone else's diet, especially to the extreme of excluding an entire class of food. Doubly so when vegetarianism and veganism has been proven to lower your bone density as much as 7% in scientific studies (no, female buddists overseas don't count, this was a study on western vegetarians and vegans). Most people who go vegetarian and vegan don't do it right, if you're going to do this, you better have medical backing and have consulted a dietitian.
Advising someone to drop a source of iron when the body tends to run anemic is not wise at all. Red meat is a great source of iron so if you drop it entirely you better be eating spinach like you're Popeye or go on supplements, especially when you're on your cycle.

Honestly, if you want a more comfortable cycle, change how you're dealing with it. I recently changed from pads to a Lunette brand mooncup. Life is much, MUCH better now, and more ecologically friendly I suppose. If you have thirty bucks to spare, definitely consider trying a mooncup (and there are several brands, be sure to shop around).
I agree with a lot of what you say. Just a note though - it is a myth that spinach is high in iron, so eating a bunch of it isn't going to help with anemia. The idea that spinach is a quality source of iron started with a typo in 1870 and was permeated through the public conscious with the Popeye cartoons (http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/infosphere/spinach-how-a-data-quality-m...). It actually doesn't have any more iron than, say, watermelon.
Well, derp me XD Thanks for the correction on spinach.
for the people who would like to listen Dr Norman Walker was a vegan and he lived to be 112 and there have been many people through history who lived way past 100 eating vegetarian. the modern contemporary societies are very desensitized though. I have loads of information but there is no point. on this thread it would be like struggling in quick sand. god bless you.

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