I have FINALLY been able to hoop around my waist. I havent been able to EVER do that. I figured out that my problem was my hoop was too small. When I made my hoop i made it by just sizing it up against my body and not measuring it. It stood about and inch or so above my belly button and I tried and tried to wasit hoop with it and it just wasnt happening. So, finally i measured it. Well, it was only a 38inch hoop. Duh, problem identified. so then i made a 45 inch hoop and on the 2nd or 3rd try i got it. Can keep it there for about a min but i am sooo proud of it.
I then let my 5 year year old daughter try my smaller hoop and she picked it up right away =) so now we have our own little hoop sessions.
Momentum was a problem for me when it came to doing a vortex as well.
Once I became comfortable enough with the movements my body has to make to keep the hoop spinning (as in, I can do it without putting all of my thought into it) I started turning a lot with my hoop. That helped me to get the momentum down, and also made it easier to do a vortex while standing still, as I figured out what the hoop and I need to be doing at the time to make the move successful.
It seems like a lot of thinking at first, but once you get it down you don't have to think about it.
Vallerie - You are NOT alone! Chest and shoulder hooping still elude me too. I like lucifera's tip of trying it sitting down. I think that might help me as I think my problem is that as I transition from waist to arms/shoulders or chest I continue to move my pelvis. In doing so, I don't quite get the 4-pointed rotation of the upper body. I can do the 4-point circular movement no problem without the hoop, but add the hoop and my lower body just wants to go with it. I don't think I'm moving my upper body as powerfully as I should be when my lower body is also involved - but for the life of me, I just can't stop moving those hips! I'm impressed with myself that I've picked up a lot of hoop tricks very easily in the almost 3 months I've been hooping, but chest/shoulder hooping is kicking my butt, and it's frustrating. There are so many cool things to be done while hooping on the chest/shoulders.
On the positive front, I tried SaFire's YouTube tutorial on the helicopter move and nailed that pretty easily. I'm also getting the hang of some of Caroleena's "moving the hoop on the vertical plane behind the back" stuff. The basic version I've got down pretty well, but some of the more complex versions are still puzzling to me.
Always something to work on, eh? I guess that's the beauty of the ever evolving hoopdance practice!
I don't know if you're comfortable with it, but spinning in the same direction as my hoop helped me to get the hang of chest hooping as well. You have to work at moving your chest a lot more while standing still, so in my experience spinning with the hoop (you don't have to spin fast even, just spinning slowly gives you more time in between the pushes your chest has to make to keep the hoop going) made it a lot easier to learn. Even now I can usually keep the hoop up on my chest longer while spinning.
I haven't really paid much attention to what my hips are doing while I'm chest hooping, but since I'm putting most of my thoughts into keeping the hoop on my chest (and doing tricks there) I can almost guarantee that it's not much. XD
Try it sitting down though. I just sat in the grass with my butt on my heels, making sure to keep my back straight.
I'll try to turn while I chest hoop. I was watching this REALLY awesome break down step by step of chest hooping and she even mentioned to turn with it. I'll give it a shot. Really, at this point I'm going to do it as much as I can until I get it.
I've got the vortex down, well i can do it about 95% of the time I try, i had to really learn to slow the hoop down and move at the same pace as my hoop, once i figured that out it became a lot more fluid. I am fairly certain I am not bring the hoop back down "correctly" but whatever I am doing works pretty well for me. Now I want to be able to do a continuous vortex move, I tried but I kept getting dizzy and thus whacking myself in the back of the head lol
chest hooping is on the to do list for saturday's hoopday. I got as far as getting my arms down into the hoop while it's spinning around my waist but the movements to shimmy it up my arms is hard!
i hooped in public for the first time today. i work at my state fair and when my shift was over i decided to take my hoop to a little grassy area and play around. i have only been hooping for about a month, so i don't fancy myself as very good, but my hooping made so many people stop and watch me! some people took pictures or videos because they thought it was so cool. i even taught a few little girls how to do some tricks. it was so much fun!